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My Problems with Game of Thrones…

I might as well bear my throat for the pygmies early on: I haven’t watched the HBO TV series of Game of Thrones. Nor did I finish the books. So, those who disagree with my oncoming critiques but can’t be bothered coming up with a counter argument can rest safely in the belief that they know the world of George R.R. Martin better than I.

But then, I’m not writing a review. My intention here is to dig for myself a well on which to draw when I’m asked once again why I’m not currently pursuing the books or the television series any further, despite being a reader of fantasy and an admirer of the programmes in whose company Game of Thrones is often named. This is, apparently, a contradiction–how can you like, say, Mervyn Peake but not Martin? How can you obsessively talk about The Wire when engaged on the subject, but neglect to even give the same studio’s newer flagship series a chance? Indeed, why dismiss something without even giving it a proper try?

One friend, after pressing the issue, was more surprised to learn that I hold Michael Moorcock’s essay Epic Pooh in high regard. In said piece of writing, Moorcock savages the work of the emperor of high fantasy, J.R.R. Tolkien, categorising it as elitist, classist, even borderline racist. From a more aesthetic point of view, however, it’s the tone of The Lord of the Rings that Moorcock and others find objectionable, a nannyish, nursery room prose that the essay’s title directly equates with that of A.A. Milne. Apparently my friend is not alone in considering the bleak, grimy attitude of Martin something of a tonic to this.

Another advantage that Martin’s book certainly has over Tolkien’s is the former’s lack of what the latter called eucatastrophe, the victory from the jaws of despair trope that categorises many of the major battle scenes in Middle Earth. A gripe I have with Tolkien that I rarely if ever see brought up is that in order to realise this eucatastrophe he has sanitised his sources, namely Pan-European epic cycles. Whereas Wagner, who used many of the same pagan stories for his Ring Cycle, allowed the Norse Ragnarok to unfold, Tolkien turns it into an opportunity for redemption. This very Christian tendency of the Inkling writers leaves a sour taste in the mouth of anyone who values a dramatic debt’s being paid – if Sauron has all but won, then I’d rather he won than have something like Gollum losing his balance be the thing that decides thousands of pages of perilous journeys and over-long battles.

Martin, of course, sentimentalises nothing. Right from the off, we’re never in any doubt that anyone in Game of Thrones can die, supposedly lifting it beyond convention to the lofty heights of a faux-Medieval Spooks. Not only can they die, but these can also be messy, rather un-grand demises. Martin never shies away from blood; in fact, his description bathes in it every chance it gets (though didn’t Karl Edward Wagner do this rather more convincingly?). If there was a deep fat fryer on Westeros, we are left in little doubt that Martin would make unconventional use of it.

There’s also a lot of sex. Whereas in Tolkien the chasteness of courtly romance is made to look like hardcore fucking, the hardcore fucking of Martin (I apologise for the ghastly mental image I’ve just imparted upon the literal-minded) extends again beyond everyday (well, maybe if you weren’t a fantasy reader) heterosexual union into casual sex, rape, necrophilia – even homosexuality!

Yes, the books loudly proclaim, no subject is too taboo for Mr. Martin. (Although I didn’t actually come across any characters we’re meant to care about who were gay; perhaps Martin has graciously decided to leave this last shred of conservative Western civilisation intact after apparently carving through everything else like a 21st century Marquis de Sade.) The distance between the infantile Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones could scarcely be made more apparent, at least on the surface.

However, loudly declaring yourself above childish things doesn’t make you an adult: it makes you an adolescent. This, I suspect, is the reason behind people describing Game of Thrones as “original.” No matter how old we are, we come to new things as a child, and for the vast majority of people, there have only been two mainstream fantasy series up to now: Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings. One of the two (people nowadays can hardly be expected to have read both!) will have served as the cot, and now here at last come the acne and mood swings in the shape of Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones is mainstream fantasy giving its parents the finger and storming upstairs to listen to toneless music. Of course, there’s a reason to think this is even more of a false dawn than it seems: Martin has spoken of his admiration for the depth and resonance of the ending of Lord of the Rings. (‘Which one?’ might well ask anyone who sat through the last twenty minutes or so of Peter Jackson’s The Return of the King, where we were treated to a series of half-hearted resolutions each more offensively saccharine than the last.)

Because there is no originality that I can see from Game of Thrones. In fairness to Martin, this is a problem with a lot of fantasy. In theory, it is the most liberated of genres; in practice, it’s extremely conservative. Despite frequently having the advantage of magic, for example, the denizens of high fantasy worlds are rarely allowed to advance beyond the European Middle Ages in terms of technology, language, custom. Which has always struck me as strange, as I was under the impression that the atavism of our Dark Ages and the political and societal make-up that followed was the result of the fall of the Roman Empire, and yet high fantasy writers fail to mention any equivalent event. Martin, likewise, has not fleshed out his world beyond the usual sword and sorcery tropes. Here is a violent ravishing of someone else’s lands, there a royal succession crisis.

Worst of all, Game of Thrones imports an even more regressive social framework than that of Lord of the Rings. For instance, for all the lamentable backwards-looking exaltation of the white aristocratic male in the latter, there are at least women, like Eowen, who are courageous and admirable–that is, when she isn’t spending her time fawning over Aragorn or marrying the first single male who comes along in Faramir. The equivalent strong-woman archetype in Game of Thrones is Daenerys Targaryen, who is varyingly a knowing seductress, an overly protective mother, a matriarchal battle-axe, and an embodiment of chaotic feminine wrath. Despite being cursed to run from one stereotype to the next like a one-woman puppet show of sexism, Daenerys actually has it better than most women in Game of Thrones. These are usually whores, rape victims or simply sniveling wretches, deriving their power from either their husbands or their high-born male children (actually, this is likewise the case with Daenerys), with no head for violence or politics. This is despite the politics of Game of Thrones being almost painfully straight forward, a simple choice of who would make the slightly better king. And you were complaining about only having Labour and Conservative!

Yet to call Game of Thrones misogynist would be doing great injustice to the effort it puts into its more general misanthropy. The men in Game of Thrones are, at best, noble murderers. More worrying is that, like in the Lord of the Rings, social organisation is by blood, and not just in terms of hierarchy. The Lannisters and the Starks are respectively wealthy and self-obsessed and wintry and tough, defined by some of the most unimaginative and unconvincing heraldry in all of fantasy – a lion and a wolf. They, though, are the ‘civilised societies’, for all their barbarism. The Dothraki are tattooed, Orientalist savages who haven’t even advanced to a Medieval level, unable as they are to get their heads around the concept of boats. The Targaryens are a higher people (urgh) but no less homogenised – and if their fair skin, light hair, violet eyes, island-dwelling and obsession with dragons sound familiar, it means you too have read Moorcock’s Elric series and can recognise the Melniboneans Martin has plagiarised.

If it was just that Martin was unoriginal, I wouldn’t have such a gripe with these books. That the lack of invention is characteristic of so much fantasy is more depressing. But to then hear that this economy of imagination with sex and blood thrown in is a game-changer, a red letter day for the genre, as every review of the book or show seems to do, is every bit as annoying as the marketing tagline for superhero funnybooks in the 90s was: “comics ain’t just for kids any more!” The supposed progression here has followed much the same pattern: instead of growing up, the genre has just elbowed its way onto the grown up’s table and demanded it be given a shandy. Somebody, please, ask to see its ID.

The one thing it does try to do different, the narrative structure in which the third person perspective changes with the chapter, also has its limitations. It necessitates each chapter being a somewhat self-contained dramatic event, in the manner of… why, a TV programme! I have no idea whether Martin wrote Game of Thrones as a closet television pitch or not, but maybe that’s why it reputably translates so well to the small screen. This is how Martin can sell paperbacks the size of bedsits and rightly call them pageturners, because each episode in the book is halfway between a short story and a cliffhanger. Well, whatever works, and there’s no doubt it’s made him a lot of money, but as a piece of literary experimentation within genre fiction it’s hardly up there with Ursula K. le Guin’s incorporation of Taoist and anarchist themes, Samuel R. Delany’s endless getaway drive from whatever confine in society or format he perceives, Poul Anderson’s more convincing and authentic excavation of epic myth cycles, China Mieville’s urban psychogeographies, Brian Aldiss’ Joycean language deconstruction or Moorcock’s Eternal Champion multiverse project. What he’s done is transmigrate TV into fiction and then back again, even to the extent of mentioning he’ll try not to ‘do a Lost‘ when he does come up with an ending.

Wait… he doesn’t know how it will end? That must be why Game of Thrones feels less like a Wagnerian opera than it does a soap opera. Which goes a long way to explaining its popularity: doubtless, it being HBO, the series is well produced and competently directed, but it would take more than that for a sword and sorcery cycle to be so talked about. Even when it was just a book, it was inordinately popular–A Feast For Crows was a New York Times Best Seller despite being no more than an enormous set-up for A Dance With Dragons. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying it on the level of soap opera–HBO’s True Blood was entertaining for the same reason. But also because it didn’t take itself entirely seriously, whereas, if the books are anything to go by, Game of Thrones will take itself very seriously indeed (and someone who has seen the series please correct me if I am wrong). Watching or reading Game of Thrones because it’s exciting and fast paced (it is) or because there is a visceral enjoyment to be had (there is) or because the character arcs are unpredictable (they are) is perfectly acceptable. Just please don’t tell me it’s the revolution when it’s the emperor in a funny hat.

Laurence Thompson

Laurence Thompson is an English writer, currently working on the sequel of an award-winning independent film. He is almost certainly drunk.

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ASOIAF Fan
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Game of Thrones is a human drama, revolutionning human drama would mean exploring uncharted topics based on human relations/emotions.
You can’t explore new topics in this category that haven’t been studied by Shakespeare already.
So basically you’re saying that it’s the best story one could hope for in a post-shakespeare era ?
Not revolutionnary, coz it’s just impossible, but great in every aspect (exciting, enjoyable, unpredictable).

Haven’t read the other authors you referenced but moorcock’s is child-play compared to Martin in his exploration of the human psychée.
And unlike what you said, the character-centric chapters are a nightmare to adapt for the tv serie. Each character or event (past or present) is seen throught the eyes of multiples characters who each have different opinions about it. In the books, if you want the “truth” about something you must do a lot of cross-references and take into account the bias of every characters on the subject before getting an idea of the big picture.
Obviously on the TV Shows the viewers see things as they really are from the get go, so you loose a lot of information on every character, you don’t know when they lie to others (or themselves) about something.

This chapter construction is part of what makes this book series so good as a human studying experience.

I hope you’ll try again another time and can find something to keep you interested throught the end.

P.S : English is not my first language, be gentle.

Laurence Thompson
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Hi, SOIAF Fan. Thank you for your comment, it was a pleasure to read.

I suppose my problem is that I’m not hugely interested in “human drama” or “explorations of the human psyche”. These, to me, sound like the sort of buzzwords that usually adorn whatever middlebrow Oscarbait movie is currently in vogue. More often than not, I avoid whatever piece of literature these terms are attached to, same with “human condition”, as they usually promote a very middle class illusion of a psychological or social state as apparently universal.

I’ll admit right away this is probably a bias, but I certainly don’t find anything particularly insightful about Martin’s supposed studies of the human entity. What exactly are they? People are violent; people crave power; power corrupts; women have strong maternal instincts; some people(s) are more savage than other people(s)… these range from obvious to dodgy to offensive.

Also, unlike yourself, I couldn’t be described as a bardolator. I have some sympathy with it: I got a lot out of reading Harold Bloom in general and his work on Shakespeare is exemplary. I can just about entertain the idea that Shakespeare was the first to document human motivations and psychology in that depth, but I don’t buy that his work was the be all and end all of that field. Did the internally violent psychodramas of Dostoevsky add nothing? The wandering mindscapes of Knut Hamsun? The stream of consciousness of James Joyce?

That it seems unfair to measure Martin by that high company is only because of the insular, pulpish state fantasy has allowed itself to be. Martin might claim (and I don’t know whether he does) to be interested in what makes humans tick, but to me it still looks like a soap opera with stereotypical Medieval trappings. Moorcock might well be child’s play in that area, but his interests lie in absurdism, commedia dell’Arte, experimentalism, surrealist humour and weird physics, and he was responsible for publishing people who do have at least the literary courage of Joyce if not the talent, such as Aldiss or Ballard. And if that was all he did, it would completely eclipse Martin’s contrbutions. But that’s not all he did.

We’ll have to agree to differ on the chapter format being tailor made for an episode. When I was reading it, I was already imagining how I would adapt it. Though again for me to criticise Martin for this would mean I fell victim to the intentional fallacy…

ASOIAF Fan
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Hi,

Thanks for your answer.
I can’t really respond to some of your points without knowing until where you have read.

Martin often quotes what William Faulkner said on his nobel prize acceptance speech : “the human heart in conflict with itself” is the only thing worth writing about; so i guess that really is what he is interested about when writing his saga.
The fantasy setting/trappings is more an original way to talk about it than the other way around (he uses fantasy to bring human drama more than he tries to “evolve” fantasy with realistic characters).

Martin has a background as a TV writer so unconsciously that must have influenced him in some ways, but he started to write A Song of Ice and Fire because of all the script he wrote that were refused for budget constraints.
He was tired of having to change a battle between 2000 people by a duel or limiting his script to one or 2 geographic locations so he decided to write a saga where everything could be as big as he imagined, never once thinking that it would be adapted one day.

The point i’m trying to make is that (in my opinion) Martin is really writing on the subjects he wants to explore, he’s not surfing on some sort of hype/popularity wave and woke up one day thinking “i’m sure fantasy with a lot of sex and violence would sell really well”.

Laurence Thompson
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That’s all well and good about Faulkner, but Faulkner is a supreme example of someone who wanted to experiment and take risks in form as much as in content. That aside, there’s more examination of the human heart in a page of Faulkner than there is in Martin’s entire series. Okay, we can’t all be William Faulkner, but to do a half-arsed job at only one of the multitude of things that make Faulkner great, and then dress it up in fantasy trappings, doesn’t gain my approval. That is, if we are giving Martin the benefit of the doubt. Whether he intended GoT to sell well on the back of sex, violence and a rapid pace is irrelevant, because that’s pretty much what it does.

Kaitlin
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I stopped reading after you seemed more shocked at the homosexuality that occurs in the novel than the rape or necrophilia. There’s also incest in the novel but it’s heterosexual so I guess you weren’t offened.

Laurence Thompson
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Kaitlin,

I think you misread my intention with that sentence. I was being sarcastic about the idea that there’s anything shocking about homosexuality.

Penny
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Possibly the most highfaluting “review” I’ve ever read…have you ever heard of a food critic going to a restaurant, eating only the starter then proceeding to slam a 3 course meal he hasn’t tasted..? I don’t even know why you’d bother writing a review of something you haven’t seen through to the end?! This genuinely boggles the mind. If you spent more time reading enough of the series to form original opinions and less time googling references and wearing out your thesauraus people might put stock in what you have to say.

Laurence Thompson
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Hello, Penny. I don’t own a Thesaurus. Please tell me the words you had trouble with and I’ll tell you what they mean.

Johnny Morris
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Such a Tyrion thing to say.

James Jones
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I agree with Penny’s sentiments, this is like a critic eating an appetizer at a restaurant, then leaving and writing a bad review about an entire meal. This is considered by many people to be the greatest fantasy series of all time. It’s realism is beyond any fiction I have ever read. It has millions of readers and is a New York Times #1 bestseller, so it can be considered mainstream as well.
Before dismissing this incredible book series, please read the entire thing.

Blabla
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Well,
I love Games of Thrones (series) and i really want to read the book (i need to start reading again)
(Also i’m very proud to say that i’ve read the whole Harry Potter and Lords of the rings sagas … hahaha i’m an unconditinnal muggle aye)
I didn’t really understand any of the comparisons you made in your critic … Because idk any of the authors you quoted … Which is great because now i have a list of books to read that should keep me busy for a year …)

And no, my comment isn’t constructive at all …
Cheers

Blabla
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OOh and WTF ? Jon Snow on the iron throne ??? (pic)

Joseph
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I’m pretty sure it doesn’t have anything to do with the series, it’s called an Iron Throne Teaser, you can find many if you image search Game of Thrones on google.

Megan
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I’m a little confused why you even bothered to write this, your opinion is completely bias based on a television show about a book. These books are 700 pages +, not considering there is too be 7 of them so quite frankly you’ve missed out of a TON of information, plot, etc etc, you hardly even know the characters for who they are in the books. You compare you’re viewing of a show too books that you have read…why don’t you take the time to finish the first book and then write a review. You cannot compare a 1 hour television show too a complex book. You must read a complex book and compare it too a complex book. Simple.

LiterateSkeptic
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Did you read that he’d never actually seen the show. He says that at the beginning, and says he gave up halfway through the books, so he did read the 1st book.

polxander
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Not to be rude, I respect your opinion on this subject even though I disagree with your review as a whole (before I begin I did full on laugh at the ‘shock horror’ of homosexuality, I could almost hear the fake dramatic tone). However, Martin put something like 6 years average into writing each of theses ‘unoriginal’ works I believe and I highly doubt someone wanting to create a book for the purpose of having a tv series would go to this length. Also you seemed more concerned with showing of your own vocabulary and overly complicated writing style ( you have serious prowess in that field, might I add) than giving an honest review that everyone happening upon this blog can understand and involve themselves in. This kind of this seems to give most afflicted with the human condition (who do understand the vocabulary) a kind of resentment of the superiority this kind of work gives off.

Finally before you ask me what words I didn’t understand, I’m a BA Hons Journalism student, so I got all the big words! (yay me!). I just believe such over complicated writing styles limits your target audience too much (and don’t say you don’t have one, otherwise you wouldn’t have this online in the first place)

PS: if some of this sounded rude I do apologise, my comment could be considered more a review of your style than the contents itself. I never made it too the end (much like yourself with the series!). You will forgive me I’m sure.

adelee
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DUDE UR AN ASS U HAVE NO IDEA WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT GAME OF THRONES IS THE BEST SHOW ON TV……GET SOME TALENT AND THEN TALK

LiterateSkeptic
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You do know you can turn that caps lock off, right?
Also, Game of Thrones being the best show on TV probably says more about TV than about the show itself.

Mac
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Each to his/her own. No point over-analysing the series in my opinion, I just enjoy the tv series and the books for what they are. No series is perfect, every series is flawed. I am (currently reading Book 1) enjoying this one nonetheless.
As I said, each to his/her own.

Justin Livi
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Lol this is the longest troll post I’ve ever seen. Good job though.

Callif
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Right? The picture of Jon Snow on the Iron Throne was worth it though.

asd
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Regarding your question about why fantasy novels only depict European Medieval times, you should read “Tales of the Otori” series by Liam Hearn.

Set in a world heavily drawn from Japanese samurai era, it’s a good read.

ala
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lol! man you should’ve at least scanned through till the end, it gets better. the “night walkers” or “white walkers” or whatever that have been asleep for thousands of years turn out to be ZOMBIES. still cant get over the zombies… still lmao

alex
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what a rambling pointless article, did the author have one too many brandies before writing this drivel? More like 21 problems with this article. Bit of a cheek that this guy criticises an author’s writing style

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LiterateSkeptic
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I agree with most of what you said, Mr. Literary Critic. I enjoy Game of Thrones for what it is (show and books). Sometimes it just gets so intense (and still goes nowhere) that you have to take a break from it!

I can’t attest to the originality of George R. R. Martin, but I enjoy his writing style and his story lines aren’t that bad. I believe you went a little overboard with the criticism of his POV writing, because I think it’s well done and creates a bit of a post-modern feel to the whole work (see Lord of the Rings movies).

I think most of the people arguing with you are people who don’t like having their opinions criticized or themselves judged, but I’m glad someone else noticed the racism and misogyny inherent in the writing (outside the culture itself).

I did find myself halfway through the third book skipping all the sex and battle scenes to find the plot…the going nowhere gets old, it really does. I don’t care how long he spent writing each book…

I was tired of them because I cannot keep reading a story that has no end. I enjoy self-contained stories. Harry Potter and LotR, you know when they were going to end and (for better or for worse) how, but with all Martin’s build up and tension I almost hope Game of Thrones doesn’t end! Whatever ending he comes up with will be sooo lame!

I can just imagine the last paragraph going something like, “And I’m tired of writing this shit. Everybody died. Fin.”

Codotusylv
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Well, A Game of Throne’s success appeals criticism. This is normal; this is even needed and welcome. However, many points in this article are not exactly relevant.

About Game of Thrones being some kind of soap opera with no end? Yes, I buy that. The problem with soap operas, though, isn’t necessarily the format in itself – it deserves to exist, even if, personally, I do prefer stories with ends as well – but much more the content, often made of trivial love stories, like in Brazilian telenovelas. With Game of Thrones, though, we are rather far from this, quite fortunately.

About it being conservative, reactionary or whatever? Well, regretfully unoriginal, coming from an article criticizing Game of Thrones for not being original…

I think it is clear to all that Martin is not presenting an ideal society, but adapting the Europe Middle Ages to a fantasy world, where the status and place of women was not really central. Shouldn’t we be allowed to present such a world? Should women mandatorily be the equals of men in any fictional work, moving forward? I hope not…

Also, I would be careful with using Moorcock old arguments in any article. Like many of his books, they are too much a product of their time, the 60 / 70’s counterculture. They did not necessarily age well, and missed the point by taking Tolkien much too litterally.

The Lord of Rings is, in truth, a tale about individual responsibility inspired by the rise of totalitarism and the World War II. I must admit, though, that this is less obvious in Peter Jackson’s movie than in Tolkien’s novel – and I understand, from the comment about Eowin’s romance with Aragorn, that the author of this article never read it, and is only commenting the film.

Concerning, Game of Thrones it is more obviously about politics and power. It is Machiavel’s The Prince of its time, somehow.

And now, about Moorcock… Or more particularly, Elric of Melniboné. Well… This was some revamped romantic litterature, adapted to Conan-like heroic fantasy, with an anti-hero, which was a popular kind of character in the 70’s. Not something utterly original neither. It was well written and enjoyable, for sure, but it lacked the structure and epic breath Tolkien, or Martin (or Jordan, or many others) had or have. It was somehow messy, with too obvious meanings.

I remember this piece where Eric was discovering some book of universal knowledge. When he found it, the book started to melt and destroy itself. According to Moorcock, this meant that universal knowledge was not an achievable goal… Oh, so astute, so powerful…

Last but not least, about Lord of the Rings being infantile and Game of Thrones being more for teenagers? Well… The question is: should something really need to be adult to be good? Not sure, when I see the word “adult”, I often read “boring”. This is true for music, litterature, cinema… almost everything, indeed.

PS: like the first guy who commented this article, English is not my native language.

iodfjasdofi
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laurence thompson is an egotistical twit

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